Apr 2, 2025 – 45th Day of the 100-Day Dharma Talk, Weekly Dharma Assembly, Standing Committee Meeting
Hello everyone. Today is the 45th day of Venerable Pomnyun Sunim’s 100-Day Dharma Talk. We have now reached the midpoint of the 100-Day Dharma Talk.
After completing his morning practice and meditation, Sunim headed to the Jungto Social and Cultural Center for the Weekly Dharma Assembly. Spring is in full bloom. Cherry blossoms, forsythias, azaleas, and magnolias are blooming throughout downtown Seoul.
At 10:15 AM, with about 170 people gathered in the third-floor Dharma hall, the Weekly Dharma Assembly began with the recitation of the Three Refuges and the Heart Sutra. Jungto Society members also joined online through a video conference. The audience requested Sunim’s teaching with three full bows.
Sunim began his Dharma talk by sharing news about the massive forest fire in the Yeongnam region that caused extensive damage last week and the recent devastating earthquake in Myanmar.
“Looking back at the past week, the most shocking event was the forest fire damage. This is the first time in our recent history that we’ve experienced such a large forest fire. If the flames hadn’t stopped at the East Sea, the fire damage would have spread to a much wider area. The forest area destroyed by this fire is equivalent to 165 times the size of Yeouido. Most devastating is the damage to civilian homes. Over 2,000 houses were destroyed. This forest fire resulted in 75 casualties and created approximately 37,000 displaced people.
Extending Condolences to the Families of Forest Fire Victims
Natural disasters are exceeding our expectations. Until now, we’ve mainly experienced floods and strong winds due to climate change, but we didn’t anticipate forest fires could be this severe. Looking at why this forest fire spread so rapidly, first, climate change due to global warming created unusually high temperatures and dry conditions combined with strong winds, which intensified the damage. Second, the excessive density of the forests contributed to the problem. Through this forest fire, we’ve learned that leaving trees and vegetation untouched isn’t necessarily the best way to protect forests. It might be better to cut down some trees for timber rather than losing everything to fire at once. Building forest roads, thinning trees, and selective logging aren’t necessarily harmful to forests but can be methods of protection. This is why we need a middle path. In the past, cutting too many trees created barren mountains that led to natural disasters, but now, excessive protection is causing different natural disasters. Through this catastrophe, we’ve deeply realized that while dense forests can prevent flood damage, appropriate thinning can prevent forest fire damage. I extend my condolences to the families of those who lost their lives in this forest fire.
Hoping for Swift Emergency Relief for Myanmar Earthquake Victims
In central Myanmar near Mandalay, a magnitude 7.7 earthquake struck, causing many casualties. Many buildings collapsed, resulting in enormous economic losses. The scale of the damage is still impossible to quantify. Myanmar’s communication networks are disrupted in many areas due to civil war under military rule. Currently, government forces control about 30 percent of Myanmar’s territory, while resistance forces control the remaining 70 percent. In just the 30 percent area controlled by the government, the death toll has reached 3,000, and there are still places where bodies haven’t been recovered. The damage in the remaining 70 percent of the territory is currently impossible to assess. I estimate that at least 10,000 people have lost their lives. When accurate statistics become available, this might be recorded as a catastrophe with tens of thousands of casualties.
Jungto Society sent an emergency relief team to the forest fire-affected areas. By the time we recognized the severity of the damage and deployed support, the firefighting was already in its final stages. We helped some displaced people and provided masks and equipment needed for firefighting activities to the firefighters. A major task of reconstruction remains, and once the basic direction for recovery is established, the entire nation will need to participate.
Unlike the forest fire response, JTS is taking immediate action for the earthquake-affected areas in Myanmar. Since the Myanmar military isn’t issuing visas yet, we’ve transferred relief funds to Myanmar through Bangkok, using the same method JTS has been using to help Myanmar refugees. We’re also purchasing some medicines locally in Bangkok and sending them to Myanmar. Although it’s a small amount, we’re focusing on providing emergency support as quickly as possible. We plan to provide additional support after reviewing the damage statistics. Currently, our emergency relief team is just waiting for visas to be issued. I ask for your collective support as well.
Now, let’s recite the Haetaljoo (Liberation Prayer) together to console the earthquake victims in Myanmar and the 31 people who died in the forest fire in our country.”
Everyone then recited the Haetaljoo three times to the rhythm of the moktak wooden instrument, praying for the victims’ peaceful rebirth.
Afterward, Sunim took questions from those who had registered in advance. One person asked a question online, followed by someone from the audience who raised their hand. One questioner expressed concern about her child after discovering that her husband’s family had a hereditary disease, worrying that her child might not live long and seeking Sunim’s advice.
I’m Worried About My Child Showing Symptoms of Schizophrenia
“I understand your concern. However, if we look closely, everyone has certain genetic issues. If we define these as diseases, then they’re diseases; if we see them as natural phenomena, they’re just phenomena. The diagnosis of what is a disease versus what isn’t is defined based on the ‘majority.’ If someone has a broken leg or a bacterial infection, we call it a disease. But we can’t call it a disease if someone’s skin is darker than others. We can’t call it a disease if someone is shorter than others. We can’t call it a disease if someone is less intelligent than others. They’re just different. If someone is born without female or male genitalia, we can’t call that a disease. What we’re born with isn’t a disease but a ‘minority’ condition—that’s the natural perspective. If someone is born with limited vision, we can’t call that a disease.
First, you need to adopt a natural phenomenon perspective. Second, genetic conditions aren’t anyone’s fault. It’s not the fault of the child born with it, not the husband’s fault, not the parents’ or ancestors’ fault. Some genetic traits always manifest, while others skip generations. When we define minorities as having diseases, they become diseases, but strictly speaking, they can’t be called diseases. They’re just natural phenomena. Among natural phenomena, there’s progeria, where people age rapidly before reaching ten years old. Some are born with disabilities. This isn’t anyone’s fault but a phenomenon that occurs naturally from countless genetic combinations. In natural ecosystems, phenomena that don’t survive long and disappear midway are called ‘natural selection.’ Even in our bodies, sometimes fertilized eggs die naturally, and sometimes people die shortly after birth. If someone is infected with bacteria or viruses or injured in an accident, there are solutions.First, you need to adopt a natural phenomenon perspective. Second, genetic conditions aren’t anyone’s fault. It’s not the fault of the child born with it, not the husband’s fault, not the parents’ or ancestors’ fault. Some genetic traits always manifest, while others skip generations. When we define minorities as having diseases, they become diseases, but strictly speaking, they can’t be called diseases. They’re just natural phenomena. Among natural phenomena, there’s progeria, where people age rapidly before reaching ten years old. Some are born with disabilities. This isn’t anyone’s fault but a phenomenon that occurs naturally from countless genetic combinations. In natural ecosystems, phenomena that don’t survive long and disappear midway are called ‘natural selection.’ Even in our bodies, sometimes fertilized eggs die naturally, and sometimes people die shortly after birth. If someone is infected with bacteria or viruses or injured in an accident, there are solutions. But when things are given in their natural state, we just have to accept them. There’s no solution because that’s just how it is. Of course, with medical advances, some supportive measures are now possible.
Regretting that you wouldn’t have married or had children if you had known about the hereditary disease beforehand is foolish. There’s no point in regretting something that was dormant and unknowable. And blaming your husband for hiding it would be selfish. People with such genetic traits in their family aren’t prohibited from marrying. There’s no need to discuss this issue now. What’s important is how you accept the naturally given phenomenon. If your child has mental issues, care for them as much as you can, and when you can no longer manage, entrust them to a professional institution. If they commit suicide or die when their time comes, you must accept that too. If someone wanted to remove and transplant their skin because it’s dark, that would be reckless. How can you change something given by nature, even if you didn’t want it? Still, compared to dying in a forest fire or earthquake, it’s much less unfortunate. Such misfortunes happen in an instant. They’re events no one knew about even a day before. Compared to such events, a hereditary disease isn’t such a big deal.
If your child becomes violent and the doctor diagnoses a mental illness, you can give them medication and treatment accordingly. When they become violent, it’s best not to provoke them. They don’t act out when left alone. If you scold them or provoke their temperament because you don’t understand their nature, they’ll explode. Sometimes they explode even when left alone. If they harm others or become uncontrollable, they should be hospitalized and isolated. It’s wrong to feel heartbroken about isolating your child just because they’re your child. It’s wrong to push away your child, and it’s also wrong to feel heartbroken about their hospitalization. You just do what’s appropriate for the child’s condition. If they take their own life despite your best efforts, you must accept that too.
But you’re now regretting that you wouldn’t have had a child if you had known about your husband’s dormant hereditary disease. And while your child’s symptoms are already manifesting, you’re worried about whether they’ll be able to marry in the future. How selfish is that? Now is not the time to worry about your child’s marriage. What’s important is how to treat and care for your child. You’re suffering and unable to communicate with your child because you’re judging someone in a special situation by your own standards. And it’s not yet determined whether your child simply can’t control their emotions or has a mental illness. For example, epilepsy shows symptoms of seizures with foaming at the mouth and collapsing. Like this, whether something is a disease or not is known only when it manifests. Or if it hasn’t manifested but a doctor diagnoses it after examination, you can prepare accordingly. For a child like yours, where it’s uncertain but there’s a possibility of illness, you can observe and better understand the principles when it manifests. This makes it easier to care for your child appropriately.
With this perspective, you can live happily in any situation. And with this perspective, even a child with a genetic disorder can live happily during their lifetime. The perspective that “I didn’t want such a child” is your desire and illusion. Such a perspective causes suffering. If you pray, pray with the mindset: “I’m fortunate it’s only this much.” You should willingly accept the given relationship and have the heart to do as much as you can. Questions like “Why does this happen only to me?” are incorrect. There are many people like you in the world. That’s why there are specialized facilities and hospitals. The perspective of hoping “I wish this wouldn’t happen to me” is not the attitude of a practitioner. A practitioner should be able to accept any situation. If you deny reality and cling to imagination, you’ll live an unhappy life until you die. You need to calmly accept such phenomena, and even if your child’s illness worsens and they’re hospitalized, you need to calmly carry on with your life. People who suffered great losses in the forest fire are living through their darkest times, and those who lost family in the earthquake are living through theirs. The living must live. If you live, you’ll continue to live. This is life.
With that perspective, it’s not a big issue. You can calmly care for your child, and if the situation changes, have them hospitalized, visit them occasionally, and continue with your life. Worrying now about whether your child will marry or not is evidence that you’re only insisting on your own desires. You can live happily even with such a child. Let go of attachments and respond according to the circumstances. If they cause a disturbance, send them to the hospital; if you want to bring them home when they’re better, bring them home; if they cause another disturbance after coming home, send them back to the hospital—this can become a way of daily life. For example, if someone has kidney problems and needs dialysis once a month, then once every two weeks, and as their condition worsens, once a week. I know someone who needs dialysis every three days. Compared to that, isn’t your situation much easier? That’s how people live while they’re alive. Some people live in nursing homes, unable to control their bowel movements. It’s just one way of living life.
I understand feeling frustrated when things don’t go as you want. But if you just let go of the idea that things must go as you want, there’s no problem at all. It’s just a bit more work, that’s all. If they cause a disturbance, report it and send them to the hospital; if they’re fine, bring them home. Live like this, and when your child becomes an adult and you can no longer care for them, you can refuse to take them in. Since they’re an adult, you can say, ‘I’m struggling to survive and can’t take care of my child.’ Then social organizations will step in. If you feel that’s not right as a parent, you can continue to care for your child. I hope you adopt this perspective.”
“Thank you. I understand now.”
After taking one more question from the audience and concluding the conversation, it was almost noon. The live broadcast ended with a promise to meet again at next week’s Weekly Dharma Assembly.
After leaving the third-floor Dharma hall, Sunim went to the basement dining hall to have lunch with the members.
From 2:00 PM, Sunim held a second meeting with the Standing Committee members of the Jungto Society’s 1000-Day Preparation Committee in the Peace Foundation conference room. Jungto Society forms this committee every three years to prepare for the next 1000 days (three years). This committee drafts the overall business plan for Jungto Society, including organizational restructuring and personnel changes.
The committee members sought Sunim’s advice on various agenda items they were researching, including evaluating operations since transitioning to an online Jungto Society, promotional strategies for the Jungto Dharma School, and training engaged volunteers. After two hours of discussion with Sunim, they concluded the meeting, agreeing to develop more practical implementation plans at their third meeting.
Afterward, Sunim discussed how to dispatch an emergency rescue team for Myanmar earthquake victims with JTS President Park Gina, then continued with office work.
As the sun set, at 7:30 PM, Sunim conducted the evening Weekly Dharma Assembly live broadcast. About 100 people gathered in the third-floor Dharma hall, while Jungto Society members connected through an online meeting room. They requested Dharma teachings from Sunim with three bows.
As in the morning assembly, Sunim shared news about JTS preparing to dispatch emergency rescue teams for the forest fire damage in the Yeongnam region and the earthquake in Myanmar. After reciting the Liberation Mantra together, the dialogue began.
Two people asked questions. One of them sought Sunim’s advice on how to manage feelings of loneliness after quitting her job and moving to a new city following her husband.
I’m Struggling with Life in a New City After Following My Husband
“Do you have a place to live?”
“Yes, I do.”
“Do you have food to eat?”
“Yes, I do.”
“Do you have clothes to wear?”
“Yes, I do.”
“Then what is there to worry about? If you have a place to live, food to eat, and clothes to wear, shouldn’t you be free from worries? With all these basic necessities met, you can live anywhere. Whether it’s Seoul, Changwon, America, or India, you don’t need to worry about where to live.”
“I think I’ve been using my work as an emotional anchor since moving to a new city. Now that I don’t have that work, I feel like I’ve lost my personal weapon.”
“Not having work is a good thing. You can still eat, have clothes to wear, and a place to sleep even without work—isn’t that wonderful? Most people complain about how difficult work is. The majority wish they didn’t have to work. But they work because without it, they would run out of food, couldn’t buy clothes, and couldn’t pay rent. That’s why I first asked if you had a place to live, food to eat, and clothes to wear. It’s actually great that you have all your basic living conditions met even without working! You can relax and do nothing. If you have nothing to do, you can practice meditation or chanting, or go outside and volunteer. You could help clean up houses in nearby areas affected by forest fires. You can do all kinds of work wherever help is needed.”
“My husband is also in poor condition and might have to quit his job, so I think I need to go out and earn money.”
“Then go out and work. Once you start working, your depression will disappear because you’ll be too busy to be depressed. If you don’t have work, it’s good to have free time, and if you need to work, it’s good to have work. So there’s nothing to worry about. If you couldn’t eat because you had no work, I might consider supporting you, but since you have food, shelter, and clothing, there’s no problem. In short, you’re worrying unnecessarily. You’re doing something that doesn’t help at all. Not having work is a good thing. But if you become so impoverished that you can’t eat, then you need to work. When you work, you won’t have time to be bored, so there’s no problem. Thinking there’s a problem when there isn’t one is an illness. In that case, you should go to the hospital, take medication, and receive treatment.
You’re not trapped under building debris from an earthquake, you don’t have a broken leg needing treatment, you’re not starving, and you’re not sick. There’s no problem at all, so why do you keep thinking there is one? Having leisure time is a good thing. If you play too much and can’t eat, then go back to work. When you work, you’ll be too busy to be depressed.”
“I used to write books for children, but I had to quit that job. Now I need to work in a factory.”
“Then work in a factory. We need people working in factories so we can live. People need to work in clothing factories so we can wear clothes. People need to work in food factories so we can eat. Farmers need to farm so we can eat, and construction workers need to build so we can have homes. But even without people making books, there’s no problem with people’s survival. You’re now going to do work that’s truly necessary for the world, so that’s a good thing. There’s no problem at all.
What you’re saying is like a farmer saying, ‘I only want to grow lettuce, not cabbage.’ Or like saying you only want to do dry-field farming, not rice farming. You need to do work that people need. No matter how much you want to write children’s stories, if no one reads them, there’s no work for you. If you cook food but no one eats it because it doesn’t taste good, you’re doing unnecessary work. You should do work that people need. Why do you keep trying to do unnecessary work? You should hug someone who says, ‘Please hug me,’ but if you go to someone who doesn’t need a hug and say, ‘I’ll hug you,’ that becomes sexual harassment.
You need to do work that the world needs. It doesn’t matter what kind of work it is. Why do you think you must continue doing today what you did yesterday? You can do one job yesterday and a different job tomorrow. So your question itself is misguided.”
“I’m hesitant because it happens to be a defense industry job making weapons.”
“Then look for work other than making weapons. As far as I know, there are thousands of factories in the Changwon industrial complex, and there should be jobs at other factories too. Besides defense industries, there are many automotive parts companies. Look for places other than weapons manufacturers. If no one else offers you a job, then you might need to work at a weapons factory just to survive. But you don’t possess core weapons technology, do you? Painting the exterior of weapons doesn’t contribute significantly to killing, so it’s acceptable to work in the defense industry. If you don’t want to contribute even that much to weapons manufacturing, work at an automotive parts company. So, is there a problem or not?”
“There’s no problem at all.”
“If there’s no problem, why are you depressed? Whenever you feel depressed, pray like this:
‘I have no problems. I am living well.’
If you’re a Buddhist, try praying, ‘Buddha, thank you. I am living well without any problems under your blessing.’ The most important thing is to always be aware that you have no problems. Whether your husband has depression, whether he dies, or whether you live with him, there are no problems.”
“Thank you.”
Everyone applauded the person who courageously asked such an honest question.
By the time the dialogue ended, it was well past 9 PM. The participants sat in circles by group for mindful sharing, while Sunim left the Dharma hall and headed to the Jungto Center.
Tomorrow will be the 46th day of the 100-Day Dharma Talk. In the morning, Sunim will give the 8th lecture on Buddhist scriptures in the third-floor Dharma hall of the Jungto Social and Cultural Center, and in the evening, he will conduct the 8th lecture of the Buddhist Social Studies Course in the basement auditorium.
